Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4530750-20160228040801/@comment-5982054-20160228154947

I’ve got to say, in my personal opinion, the TSG are one of the most toxic things our community has ever produced. While they may have been a positive influence from the start and for several years after, they have become progressively more aggressive towards no only other clans, but even individuals.

The root to the cause is clearly Dion himself, from the account which has been produced, which makes the TSG appear as a personality cult, and which makes it so hard to reform without either overwhelming support from all sects of the RP community, or dismantling the TSG itself: the latter which would not make us better then them.

We should not be promoting a clan which pressures players into accepting bribes in return for active participation, bullies its own administration and then silences any form of differing opinion on the threat of a very public removal: Let alone one that despite this, has had official recognition from Jagex Moderators. This is just on top of other bad practices they have promoted, such as the retcon of widely accepted community canon and the vandalism of articles relating to that.

However, we also have a responsibility to not set a precedent of censorship on this wiki, or on our official forum section on the Runescape Fourms. We have no right to deny the freedom of knowledge we promote each day by contributing to the RuneScape Roleplay Wiki, let alone rewriting history: It would make us hypocrites.

As such, I do not support the idea of an outright ban of their content. Not only is it contrary to our values, but the effort required to both execute and maintain this would be too great with our current strength and activity status. I instead would like to propose and support the following:

 ·             * We restrict the editing of TSG-related pages to moderators and administrators who aren’t affiliated to them.

 ·          *    Known senior members of the TSG should have their editing privileges restricted, requiring moderator approval before publishing.

 ·            * Such TSG articles having disclaimers attached to them, disclosing why they are restricted.

While these may be extreme, we can’t really be seen to be idle anymore on the issue: The TSG is controversially our most publicly recognised organisation for 42, and by them execute a negative campaign is harmful to 42 as a whole. And hopefully, by diminishing their public exposure on this media, we can promote a shift away and the growth of new, more positive paradigms.