Talk:Saradominism/@comment-11555902-20131003014739/@comment-24205786-20131026085921

I don't think it's right to adamantly say Bandos has never used an elder god artifact. Almost every god has ascended into godhood via artifact. He also couldn't have created them, as artifacts are storage vessels of Elder God energy created by them. Most gods who happen upon artifacts claim them as their own, as seen by Armadyl's declaration of the elder staff being "his" so to speak.

As for Zaros, I have a slight disdain for him. Everything seen in-game and constructed by Jagex gives him a very cliche appearance overall. A god of darkness/mystery, that was never mortal and rofled out of death by slipping into the shadow realm, hardly seems like a balanced character. Of course, being a god, he would hardly be balanced per se. But the way I view Zaros, is that he is nothing more than a Mary Sue.

Going back on to Bandos, he was a tier 3 god but the events of the Fifth Age knocked him down to tier 4, as Jagex has confirmed here.

We also seem to be creating a stream of comments not at all pertaining to the subject of this article, Saradomin. It might be best we move the Bandos and Zaros chatter to the appropiate religion pages, as it would be better for discussion on the gods (that is, comments about Bandos are more likely to be responded to on the Bandosianism page) and is better suited there.