Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4530750-20160228040801/@comment-4530750-20160228102634

Ihzeokk wrote: Lor-break wrote:

You're misconstruing most of the policies; they pertain to taking sides in a conflict such as land claims. One person writes that they're the Sultan of Al-Kharid and then another person says no, you can't, I'M the Sultan of Al-Kharid. We can't take sides and say that either player A or player B are the legitimate Sultan. We shouldn't have to, can't, and won't. We're not community game masters and cannot legitimize or illegitimize people's roleplay. Besides, that would be awful. While not all four policies apply to this, the first two policies do. They are not exlusive to conlcits such as landclaims but "any in-character or out-of-character conflict." therefore including this discussion about TSG's past activies in RuneScape and current activities in Minecraft. If you have a problem with this you should take it up with the Wiki's Owner and your follow Admins to reword the policies to be more clear.

As for the 4th clause, we actually can't discuss this on the official RuneScape forums anyway. It would constitute as a call-out, and would get locked. Logically speaking, we could put it there for visibility purposes but seeing as this pertains ONLY to the wiki, it's here, even if we could discuss it on the official forums. Sorry this was my bad, I chose to post all four polices because I didn't want to pick and choose what policies suited my argument. I would prefer everyone to see that we shouldn't discuss this OOC problem here as it focuses on an unpolular group.

I do agree that we shouldn't post this on the official forms but at the same time we need to talk about the issue of abuse and how to deal with it, not this one example.

As I stated in my earlier post: only their TSG page would be removed. They would not be removed from the annals of RSRP history in any way and their other existing articles will remain (such as Dion Magnan's character page, for example).

Concerning other persons that are abusive: maybe. Bring it forward and it would be discussed, but this is a rather large-scale problem. It's not as though only one person has been affected by it: there have been multiple victims that have been shaken up pretty badly.

We come here to have fun. For that to be possible, I believe that a safe and comfortable space is required.

There really isn't anything wrong with the wording. No one is saying x is right and y is wrong. We're also not taking sides: you are. The decision isn't ours, it's the community's. How we feel about the final decision made doesn't come into account: we can't vote, only present arguments.

Thus far, three are in favor of the implementation of some form of disclaimer or another, and the other wants the page deleted.

As for the topic of abuse, I'll make a thread about general abuse tomorrow and how to recognize it. I think that it would serve as a good introduction to the topic, and how to deal with bad situations and abusive individuals on top of informing players about what things aren't okay. The course I had about recognizing abuse in HS was really, really important and I think that people should be able to recognize it and, hopefully, learn how to tackle it properly.