Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4530750-20160228040801/@comment-4530750-20160229201356

Makuta Teridax42 wrote: Yes and I'm thankful for that, though this really never should have been an issue. This has never happened at any time in the history of this wikia. I don't see why it should become a trend now. Let people post what they want, moderate for your policies, and let everyone be happy. I'm simply stating that something this ridiculous really should never have happened. What does this mean for the future of RSRP wikia? Will more pages be subject to "voting" on whether or not it stays or goes? This isn't how other wikias work. I am not trying to back-seat mod, I am just saying from a non-biased viewpoint. This should not be happening to anyone for any reason. It is simply uncalled for. Especially given this current situation. I'm going to leave it at that, please take my words not for granted. I want to help make this Wikia a place for everyone to enjoy, rather than everyone bickering and arguing. Thanks Lor!

The deal is that this is unprecendented in the history of the wiki -- no one has actually ever very seriously called someone out here before. This isn't actually about TSG - it's about cases like these get handled. TSG just happens to be unfortunately linked to it. This is no more actually about TSG than the Art of War is about actual warfare: it's about conflict resolution.

The purpose that this thread serves is essentially just a medium to inform us about community opinions and feelings. Are call-outs something that people want? What makes them okay, and where is the line drawn? How are these things to be handled in the future? How far does it go? How far should it be allowed to go? What's alright, what isn't?

That's what the thread is actually about.

That TSG is so widely negatively regarded actually skewers the results and information that we'll get from this. Other situations wouldn't be nearly as draconic. In a way, I'm glad that it is. This is the absolute worst case scenario.

As for how things are handled on other wikis: those wikis aren't our wiki. Those communities aren't our community. They have different values and groups and experiences. On some wikis, they'll systematically erase you from the annals of community history and effectively retcon you. On others, they'll just ban you and let you be forgotten. Others, still, they won't have it at all. Ban for the guy that made the post, move along. There's no "good" or "bad", just what works best for your community according to its values.

Whether this is uncalled for or not, I can't really say. The reason that this is a case is because someone brought it forward and my long-time experiences as a large-scale group/clan/guild leader (600 members) is that if you just delete a call-out like that in a community like this one, there's an out-cry.

Things get ugly quickly and people feel like they're being censored and then they get angry and when they get to a certain level of anger, it's difficult to talk them down and reason with them. Discussing it is a way of controlling damage, keeping people level-headed and opening venues of communication. That way, people don't feel like they're being silenced, and they don't feel like their feelings are invalid, which are two things that the value of which can't and should not be ignored.

Your opinion isn't just going to be disregarded, regardless of any one of the admins personal feelings about them. None of us have to like anybody to be professional. It's a matter of respect, which is why we don't tolerate belligerent and aggressive behavior on the wiki in the first place.